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	<title>Comments on: Apparently, they don&#8217;t care.</title>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://oncampus.macleans.ca/education/2009/08/17/apparently-they-dont-care/comment-page-1/#comment-12902</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a cynical thought. If someone really believed that government in any form was unnecessary or a drag on the free-market economy, what would they do if they gained power? Would they work really hard to make government efficient and respected? Or would they do everything in their power to make citizens believe that government and politicians are incompetent, unnecessary, inefficient, sinister, evil, wasteful, unpredictable, etc? 

I think several governments are working on the second premise with the end-game of disenchanting voters so much that a 100% corporation- and private-industry-run system almost looks like the best option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a cynical thought. If someone really believed that government in any form was unnecessary or a drag on the free-market economy, what would they do if they gained power? Would they work really hard to make government efficient and respected? Or would they do everything in their power to make citizens believe that government and politicians are incompetent, unnecessary, inefficient, sinister, evil, wasteful, unpredictable, etc? </p>
<p>I think several governments are working on the second premise with the end-game of disenchanting voters so much that a 100% corporation- and private-industry-run system almost looks like the best option.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Rybak</title>
		<link>http://oncampus.macleans.ca/education/2009/08/17/apparently-they-dont-care/comment-page-1/#comment-12868</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Rybak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Evelyn.  I agree with your ideas about a cycle of disengagement.  And the thing about a cycle is that it can be influenced at any point in the loop.  Although it&#039;s true that it might be possible for current politicians to engage with students sufficiently to turn things around, it&#039;s also possible hit the cycle elsewhere, and since that&#039;s something more in our control it&#039;s the approach I endorse.

We &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; have demographic information on who votes.  The youth vote and youth issues matter less expressly because they don&#039;t vote, as you say.  And so one solution is to get youth voting no matter who they vote for.  Even if they spoil their ballots.  Even if their votes are ignorant.  Informing the electorate can be the battle for next year.  This year, just get them voting.

There is a lot your university and/or students&#039; union can do to promote this.  Get a polling station on campus.  Start a voters&#039; registration drive on campus.  If anyone gives you any crap about residence students not being allowed to vote locally you need to fight it and correct it.  Remember, there are real trends in student voting, however much or little they may vote.  Some candidates may not be motivated at all to even facilitate that vote.  In the past, I&#039;ve seen unions face down exactly that challenge, when certain candidates were promoting the idea that students should &quot;go home&quot; (meaning, to their parents&#039; homes) to vote.  There&#039;s no such law.  You vote where you live.

That, at least, is something you can do as a student.  If and when there&#039;s an election, do everything you can to make voting easy for students.  It won&#039;t correct every problem but it does at least strike at one point in the cycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Evelyn.  I agree with your ideas about a cycle of disengagement.  And the thing about a cycle is that it can be influenced at any point in the loop.  Although it&#8217;s true that it might be possible for current politicians to engage with students sufficiently to turn things around, it&#8217;s also possible hit the cycle elsewhere, and since that&#8217;s something more in our control it&#8217;s the approach I endorse.</p>
<p>We <i>do</i> have demographic information on who votes.  The youth vote and youth issues matter less expressly because they don&#8217;t vote, as you say.  And so one solution is to get youth voting no matter who they vote for.  Even if they spoil their ballots.  Even if their votes are ignorant.  Informing the electorate can be the battle for next year.  This year, just get them voting.</p>
<p>There is a lot your university and/or students&#8217; union can do to promote this.  Get a polling station on campus.  Start a voters&#8217; registration drive on campus.  If anyone gives you any crap about residence students not being allowed to vote locally you need to fight it and correct it.  Remember, there are real trends in student voting, however much or little they may vote.  Some candidates may not be motivated at all to even facilitate that vote.  In the past, I&#8217;ve seen unions face down exactly that challenge, when certain candidates were promoting the idea that students should &#8220;go home&#8221; (meaning, to their parents&#8217; homes) to vote.  There&#8217;s no such law.  You vote where you live.</p>
<p>That, at least, is something you can do as a student.  If and when there&#8217;s an election, do everything you can to make voting easy for students.  It won&#8217;t correct every problem but it does at least strike at one point in the cycle.</p>
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